Archives for June 2012

My other ’69 (not a Z/28)

About 2.5 years ago I bought a 69 Camaro that I did not inspect closely. This was a HUGE mistake. It ended up being in horrible condition. The main problem was rust. There were 4 huge patch panels in the floor that had underbody coating over them so there was no way to tell. Also, there were second sets of rear quarter panels that were screwed on with wood screws over the original quarter panels and then bondo’d. The entire car was a mess. Rust had built up everywhere. I brought it to a place where they did a whole bunch of repairs. I drove it around for a short while, but I was still not happy with the car. About 1.5 years ago, I brought it to Labrecque Autocraft. Mike stripped the car down to almost nothing.

Here are some pics from the low point.

It has taken a long time for the guys at Labrecque Autocraft to bring this car back from the dead, but it’s finally looking like a car again.



The 454 truck motor that was in the car came out. I replaced it with a COPO correct 1969 L72 427 CI engine. It has the correct carb, 4-bolt main block casting #3963512, manifold #3933163, etc. but it’s set up with a roller cam. The engine was built by Norm Case at Precision Automotive. It peaked at 505 hp on the engine dyno.

…and here’s a picture of what it should look like when it’s done.

for more info on the Yenko/Douglass Camaro, see:  Yenko/Douglass Camaro

A212CW – Air Filter = headache somewhat resolved

I was trying to figure out what was the correct air filter and posted it over at the CRG.

According to every reputable post I’ve read, original filters have “BEST WAY TO PROTECT” on them.

Also, in the “Corvette Restoration Guide, 1968 – 1982” by Richard Prince, he states:

“All 1968 and 1969 Corvettes not equipped with an L88 or ZL1 use an open element air cleaner assembly.

……………etc etc. and then……

Original air filter elements have ‘BEST WAY TO PROTECT YOUR ENGINE – REPLACE WITH TYPE A 212 CW’ silk screened in white around the horizontal lip. Furthermore, original elements, unlike later replacements, have a fine wire screen around the outside. Most replacements use a noticeably heavier wire. Earlier cars probably utilize an element with the wire screen in a diagonal pattern. Later cars probably use an element with the wire screen in a horizontal pattern. With a horizontal pattern, the wire forms rectangles with the longer measurement running vertical when the element is installed.”

so, after knowing the correct text I also needed to know what mesh was correct:

this original late 1969 filter:

or this 1967 version:

A guy named William who is a core member of the CRG and is extremely knowledgeable on Camaros wrote:

“Both Hot Rod [1-69] and PHR [4-69] tested the same very early production ’69 Z/28. The PHR engine photo clearly shows the soldered diamond mesh version as seen in photo #2. ’68 Z/28 tests show the same mesh.

Car Life [8-69] and Road Test [8-69] tested the same yellow/yellow JL-8 Z/28. For the C/L test it had a cross-ram. But it was all OE for Road Test. The photo shows the mesh as in photo #2 but it appears to be oriented 90º from the photo. It is definitely not the diamond mesh. The earliest yellow interior cars were mid-February.

You could probably use either.”

Here is the 8/1969 Road Test Picture that William posted. He said to notice the “reverse polarity” battery. You also have to look very closely, but you can see that the mesh is rotated by 90 degrees compared to a lot of filters sold and it is definitely not the diamond mesh.

I bought the 4/1969 the Popular Hot Rodding and here is a picture of the DZ 302 that was tested with headers. This is the straight-wire the soldered diamond mesh version.

After figuring out what I need, I ended up paying dearly for one….It’s perfect match to the Popular Hot Rodding one, but the filter paper looks brown.  

GaryL on the CRG wrote: “Production-line A212CW filter element paper was “oil-wetted” (that’s what the “W” originally stood for), which is why the paper appears yellowish. Later service replacement A212CW elements were not, and had “white” paper.”

my filter

My filter looks more brown than yellow. I’m not sure it it’s a heavier oil or it’s dirty or it’s just from age. I am guessing it’s from age.

updated 6/10/12:  JohnZ responded to my posting on the CRG regarding this filter and confirmed that  “The original production-line filters had yellowish/brownish paper, as the paper was oil-wetted“.

I had been trying to think of a way to lighten it up by cleaning it somehow, to make it a light yellow, but after JohnZ’s post, I think I’ll just leave it alone.

 

 

Door Panels

The interior standard door panels that were on the car are in very bad shape. I picked up a set on EBay and they came in back in Dec 2011. They were not perfect, but they were only $305 and no one else bid on them. The bottom edges are very brittle in some areas. Mike Labrecque is having his guy repair the panels.

There is a manufacturer, part numbers, and dates on the back. It’s a little strange that I did a whole bunch of Internet searches on Seaman. One guy confirmed that Seaman is the original manufacturer and confirmed the part numbers on Camaros.net and there is no info on the CRG.

The drivers side has “Seaman 7793352 10-14-68”
The passenger side has “Seaman 7793353 9-24-68”

Both dates are great for me since it is a 69 01B car.






Mike just sent me some pictures of a repaired edge. Awesome job!!!

Before

During

After (Nice!!!)

Skinny green stripe plugs

After about six months of searching, I now have the correct skinny stripe AC R43 “MADE IN U.S.A” plugs. 🙂

There is some text on the box tab but I’m not sure how to decode the date. It looks like the year is 1969 anyway.

No deductions.

Jack had more pictures!!!

I visited Jack, the former owner of the Z/28, in Florida in April 2012 and he had a few more pics from the mid 1970’s to show me. I took pics of his pictures.

In November 1974, Jack was sent to a aircraft maintainence school at Sheppard AFB Wichita Falls, Texas to learn how to repair C130 engines.

Jacks on the bottom left:






At some time between 1970 to 1976, the vertical trim bars on the tail light came off.